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🌳 trahearne ([personal profile] pactmarshal) wrote in [community profile] dreamcrystals2022-07-01 10:46 am

Open | Passive Dream

Sender: Trahearne (but it doesn't sound like him...?)
To: All
Subject: Midday Passive Dream Recording
Warnings: Slaughter, prejudice, zalgo text, Oriphi fucking dies, heart of thorns spoilers lmao

We are everywhere. We are the roots, the grass, the moss, the overgrown trees, the out-of-place and disfigured vines that hang in the air, that suffocate the wildlife, that grasp the crumbling airships.

So no matter where we are, you see. You see that your kin, your brothers and sisters, have been sequestered off and herded into their own little pen, separate from the rest of the troops in the Pact Encampent. They have been given their own targets for practice, their own bedrolls, their own rations. Perhaps it would be a nice situation to be in - to be among familiar faces, family - had the whole scene been ripped from the context in which it sat.

The sylvari are being quarantined. They can no longer be trusted. They are subjects of M̹͂ő̢̯͞rdř͉e̡̮͑͌m̜̮̗̽́͛ó̤̬̐t̮̅h̝̩̍̾. Though they claim they are trustworthy, that they still fight for the Pact's cause, is that still true? Can they distinguish their own thoughts from the d͍̠̐̀rà̫ğ͍͓̑ọ̜̈́̃n̯̂'s in their head?

They carry on as though everything is normal. Some train with the dummies, some sleep, some huddle in little groups as they partake in meals. A lot of them, if not all of them, look like your friends, dreamwalkers from Songerein. How interesting that you see them this way - as family. As your responsibility. It's too bad you doom them by doing so.

The herd of plant ghouls are watched over by norn - broad, 9-foot-tall humanoids - and charr - ferocious-looking felines with horns, tall if not taller than the norn. They wear Vigil uniforms. You know these officers. They are aggressive, merciless, Vigil for good reason. They are not suited for guard duty - in a sick, sinking feeling, you realize they have been ostensibly stationed to "keep watch." That is not their true job. They have been chosen for one specific reason.

There comes a scream from among the sylvari. This particular one - a petite sapling, her bark the gentle color of violets, offset in places by soft patches of pink lichen; her wide, curious eyes the color of midsummer sunflowers; yellow blossoms budding from the branches stemming from her head - has caved ̯̎ḁ̐nd͇͝ ̣͠ġ͟iven i̬͊n̞͐to̳͂ ̧̹͆̔tḩ̛e͇̕ ̛̼̂ͅd̻̲̉͘r̟͝ä̱̪͙́͛̄ġ̞̠͒̈ͅo̝̙̲͂̆̕n'̡̧̞͊̿̕s̡͍̦͂̄̎̉͜ ̡̻͍̜̀̓̈̕v̤̼̪͕̋̽̾͘ơ̫̱͍̜͊̒͠ì̢̲̃́͜͝ͅc̦̰̞̞̏̔̀͠è͙̠͙̬̅̔̕. The dragon's thoughts are her own now. She whirls around to the exit of the pen, eyes wide in madness, and draws her staff. It's only two steps into her charge that one of the norn standing watch cocks her rifle and sends flying a bullet that soars straight through the sylvari's head. With an unceremonious thud, the sylvari falls to the ground. She will move no more.

A hush falls over the pen. The norn reloads her rifle. "Remember," her deep, booming voice resonates over the dragon's for a brief second. "Any funny business, and you'll end up like her."

It is then that a group of other Pact soldiers on patrol pass by the pen, trying their best not to gawk at the spectacle. They whisper amongst themselves, trying not to be heard, but you can hear. You are e͔͡v̘̙͇͙̱̹͂̎̈́̓͛̚͜͞e̟̝̬͉͚̹͆̅͂̾̀̕r̨̫͋̂́ͅy̢͒w͢͝ḣ̪̜̞̝̟̊̎͛͒̑͜ë͙̥̞̙́̔̑̓ŗ̱̩͌̌̽̿͢ę͓̳̖̘̾̒̒̋͞͠ͅ, after all.


               "How horrible..."
                                "Should have put all of them down..."
     "...Commander told us to give them the benefit of the doubt..."
                                           "...don't know how I'll trust a sylvari after this..."
  "Isn't our marshal a sylvari...?"
                        "That's terrifying, what will happen to us...?"


They mention you, but you're at my mercy. We see everything, but you cannot respond.

They do not trust you. T͖̪͉̯͂̑͌͠h̯̠̩́͂͘ḙ̛̪̞͉̋̍͝y͍̌ ̡̬̗̣͓̑͂̿̚͡w̡̯̲̣͇̄́͋͐͠ị̎l͇͔̮͚͚̠̊̓̄͐̽̔͢͞ļ̛̬̑͢͞ ̨̃ne̺͖͉̹̺̓͋͛̽̒v̳͗ĕ̘̱͚̓͞r ̰͛ţ͎̙̲̙̫̆̍͛͊̋͟͞͡r̰̪͔̍̓͘ȗ̧͚̝͗̆ş͕͙͍̋̽̕͘͟͝t̢̩͉̜͕͈̑̿̽̑͞͡ ͍̽yọ̥̮̹͐́͂̈ù̟̺͉̖̈́̀͝.

They do not trust your family. T̢͇̘̠̘̞̐̑̅̔͗̊ḥ͙̭̲̎̊̊́̆̚ͅͅé̡͔̮̑̅ȳ̡͍͙͕̹̩̑̈̇̀͛͑ͅ ̡̲̤̬͗͐̅̐w͕̝̘͚͈̰̪̒̊̾̽̈́̀̅í͙͚̱̭̔͐̃́͢͢͝l͚̦͈͉͆̅̇͌͜͞l͉̠̯̠̯̠̑̑͂͑̆̀̚͜ ͉̦̦̻̹͐̈́̉̂͐͜͡ǹ̡̛͚̝͖̮̺͔́̈̾́̐ǒ̗ ̯̟͓̖̙̀̊̽̓̅͢͝ḽ̢̥̘̖̜͊͐̍̈͊͐̂̕͜͜o̭͌̈́͢ñ͉̭̺͆͑ǧ̫ě͙̫͉̠̜͓̩́͌̄̿̕͞r̭͎̱̦͌͗̿͡ ̧̧̺̈̋̄̽͢t̰͇̟̫̠͖̤̩̎̄̽̑̌̎̽͞ṙ̡̢̹̥̍̌͒us̭͎̱̘͑̇͘̚t̩̱͆͝ ̤͔̯̱̖̗̩̃̈́̆̋̈̕͞y͍̅o̝̜̹͕̒̌̃͘u̜̳̦̽͂̈r̰͛ ̯̂̍͟f̛̤̦͓̯͇͂̎́͐a̬̓ḿ̧̢̰̠̗͈̤̌͊̈́́͘͞i̢̩̲̯͑́̒̚l͙̝̦͆͂͑́̏͟͢y.

Your mistake will be a scar on Tyria, on the history of your people. Y͕̎o̤͒̅ͅu ̨̖́̕w̮̾i̢̤͋̿ll͍̭̒͠ ̪̙̹͐͊̃̊͢b̰̪̎̿e̥̱̍̀ ̨͇͕͖͌̀̋̉r̟̯̜̪̾̎̄̆͘͢e͈̾m͍̔e̢̩̳̋̈̀m͇̻̱̳̬̑̄̐͘͞b̭̫͓͙͂͋̀̕ḗ̘̖̺͈̻̻͌̅̈́̅r̠̃̀͢e͎̯͙͍̎̉̊͝d̡̨̹̪̮̄̊̔͑̌͘ͅ ͙͖̠̀̿͞f̭̌ö̢̮̟͉͔̥̗̳͆̽͗̀͒͘͞ȓ̻̘͙̟͇̗̖̜͑̒̐́͛̀̄ ̡̳̩̞͉̗̬͂͌̈͗́̉͘͟͡y̛̫̪̻̠̰͎̲̓͌͋̅̀́̚͜ỡ̢̡̨̭̞̤͕̎̒͛̄͜͠͝u͖͍͙͉͍̜͚͙̿̇̍͛̐̒͗̚r̼̖̤̻̩͓̟̄̽͂̂̐̒̍̒͜ ̙̰͎͔̣̠̈̓͋̃͛̿́͊͜ͅf͓̮͚͖͙͕̰̊̉͂͆͐͊̉͊͜a̙͚͔͙̞̳̖͇̓̿͒̄̌̅̾͝ì̡̠͓͓͚͚͇̖̐̋́̇͋͆͞ļ̰̖͔̦͙͕̣́̒̈̋̇̒́͝ů͔̲̰̳̭̙̟̰̃͐͂̔͒̀̐r̛̪̦̬̺͈͎͎̩̒̆͌̾̉͒̓e̡͖͎̩͉͕̺̯͗͛̔̉͘͘͞͞s̨̧̻̲̹͓̭̲̎̓̑̃̑̈́͞͠.̶͕̼̻̱̤̟̯̺̘̘͆͘

You resist. You refuse my help. From the h͖̒ę͚̼͍̪̤̂͆͆͐̀̿̈́̕͟͟͡ͅa̛̜̼̹̤͇͐̍́̐r̢̬͇͙̗̖̲̪̄͑̅̋͆̀̔͠t͔̳͛͐͢͝ ̧̠͔͇͈̯̬͎́̃̋͗̎̿̚͝ȍ̠f͈͚̬̿͘͘ ̝̣̫͍̭͗̀̋̅̀͗͟t̡̆h̡̜̦̼͖̳̭̀̂́̚͡͠͡ö̢̩̝̜̞́̎̐̾͡r͚͍͙͈͎͌̈́͛̑͡n̳͖̝̘͕̺͈͛̀͐̾̏̽͒̕͜͟͠s̢̝͓͍̱̹̜̐̎̐̊͌͒̅͆͜ you see all that I see, you hear all that I hear, you are everywhere as I am. You see how your people - our people - suffer, yet you choose to do ņ̖͚̦̮̗̱͇̗̘̙͚̣̹̆̒̓̌̃̋̆̂̄̀͑̎͐͟͝͠ǫ̔t̺́h̨̯͖̲̞̝̪̗̪̫̮̜͈̖̙̳̼̓͗͑̍̽͂̈̐̐̅̍̇̎̈́̈̓̅í̳̬͎͚̘̗͓̻̯͚̖̀̈́̒̇̉͊̉̃͑̔͢͠n͈͕̲͔̝̣̟̟̮͂̽̿͗̉̄̈̍̆̃͢͢͝ĝ̯̺͎̖̤̜̯͙̭̯̓̊̋̈́̀͐̀́̒͘͟͟͝.

You are path͇͊et͚͋i͕̾c̨̊.͔̔ ͕̻̀͡Y̘͛͜͝ou̞̯͐͡ ̙̟̟͑͋̾a̦̼̽͐̀͜rė͓̩̦́͊ ͍͙͒̔w̪͈̳͙͆͒̃̊è̱a͓̽̆͢k̢̢̭͖̝̎̽̂͌͒.̙͌ ̻͉͇̓̏̑Y̨̡̋̽ō͚̪͙̑̊u̠͇͇͖̣̓͑́̑͝ ͉̝̫̅̆̎ç͎̮̏̊̍à̢͉̺̗̾̓̋̚͟n̢̧͙̟̫̺̓̐̃͊̅̂ņ̢̡̖̯̀̄̀̅̒̓͜ơ͈̬͙̗͚̮̍͛́́̐t̝͚̩̬̹͒̿̍̕͝ ̱̩͠͡e̱͓̩̖̗̺̩͗̑̂͊̎̎̃v̡̝̪̝̥̙̮̝̋̓͑̈̏̃͒͠ę̣̯̭̘̺̏̐̀̈̾̚n̛͖̱̩̘̘̥̠̜̋̃́́̔̉͗͘͢ ̧̝̫̌̑̅s̝͇̮̻̜̦͋͛̐̄̇͗͒͢a͙͙͎̮̘͎͍̪͛̐͗̆͌́̂͛͐̅͢͢v̹̺͍̇͐͞e͚̟̓̀ ͍̭͇̳̖͊͂̄͂̋͝ͅy͖̞̺̆̔̓o̘͚̪͗̉͞ù̺̠͕̤͍͇̲̟̻̠̑̒̊̈͌̂̔͊̚r̳̼͇̒̀̏ ̡͈̖̮͋̍́̽̚͢ḱ̡̻̥̤̙̰̐̎̕̕͞i̘͊ṋ͔̹͈͉͔͔̙̣̾̂̄̀̏̌̒̆͘̚ͅ.̡̉ ͔͎͙̼̯̼̩̗̳̯̭͒̏́̓́̆̒̅̽̌͢͠͞N̎ͅo̙͎̞̯̓̂̌͝t̬͚͗̕ ̢̧̻̩̞̬̬̭͉̤̞̭̂̎̒͆̄͐͊͛̔̕̚͟͠͞w̡̯̭̮͔̩̠̻̙̦͎̤̝͌̂͑͐̓̀͂͌̽̊͌͑͛̔͜͠ͅį̧̥̤̹̪͓̞̫͇̬̻̏͛̈́͊͑̿̓́͑̏͛͑̿̚͜͟͠ͅt̡̡͓̠͖͙͍̗̬͖͖͔̙̺͕̀̊͂͛͆͗̐̋̎̅̈́̚͘͞͠h̡̧̟̻̣̩̺͖͙̩̠̗͍̋̈́̽̒̈́̋̌̂̋́̎͒͂́̈́͢ͅǫ̖̭̥͚͍͎͓̗͇͓̯̖̩̞̔͆͌́̊͗͒̀̓̋͘̚͞͡͞ų̠̘͙̘̙̪̫͕̱̗̘͎̫͎̄̔̃͐̔͐̈̽̽̾̒̃͘̕͝t̢̨̨͚͔͈͇̘͖̯̩̠̬̠͒͒̿̒̓̅͆͗͐̔̈͗̃̕͘ͅ ̧̙͇̟̟͇̟̤̫͇͖̪̝̮̬̂̈͗̄̆́̋͒͌̀͑͗̚͠͞M̢̨̦̲̟̹̖̠͓̬͉͚̺̺̍̐̄̌͑̾͊̓̐͛̚͟͞͝͡͡Ḛ̢̨̖̜̼̟̟̜͔̫̽̎̌͋͋̎̉̊̾͗̀͊̆̏͢͢͜͟͠.
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-01 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Empathetic as she may be, she can’t possibly imagine what must be going through Trahearne’s mind at what she’s just seen. When she last heard that voice was weeks ago, when she tried to dreamwalk. Has he been hearing it the whole time that he’s been asleep? Oh, it breaks her heart to think of it, that he would have been subject to such torment and anguish at what should have been a peaceful slumber…

His embrace startles her back into the moment, and she wraps her arms around him in turn. Of course she does, it’s just who she is. If a hug is what he needs to ground himself back into the present - and he must really need one if he’s the one initiating rather than the other way around - then she’ll gladly hug him back. It’s as much for her as for him, anyhow. ]


What are you saying? You have nothing to apologize for… I’m sorry, that you’ve been dreaming of such horrible things. But you’re awake now… So, welcome back, Trahearne.
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-05 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
[ She watches him with no small amount of worry as he readjusts. She knows, very well, that kind of shaky breath, the kind that beats back tears as one tries to compose themself. Ori reaches out and rests a hand on his shoulder, a grounding presence and a gesture of sympathy all at once. ]

You were asleep for a month. Our fellow dreamwalkers have taken to calling it a “sleep coma.”

[ Some people wake up from theirs with new memories, almost as though they were in their waking world for a time, but she knows that couldn’t be the case for Trahearne for obvious reasons. So she keeps that bit to herself, for now… ]

I’m sorry that it wasn’t really a restful sleep for you. Do you… Do you want to talk about it?
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-06 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Regrettably, Ori is also intimately acquainted with the sort of look, the sort that says that someone is, in all likelihood, giving themselves a hard time. But she has friends - Trahearne amongst them - who always pull her out of such moments, and so she seeks to do the same for him, now. She and Thoma had to pull Diluc out of that kind of spiral of self-hatred, too, not too long ago; and the fear of what could have happened that time still lingers in her mind.

She knows that this kind of conversation is painful, and ugly, but it’s necessary.

The look that she levels at him when he acquiesces and decides to tell her is grateful, though it’s soon replaced with a more serious expression as she listens to him dutifully, to try to understand everything she saw in the dream to the best of her ability.

Her grip on his shoulder tightens as he goes on, and once he’s paused to keep himself from crying, she eases herself out of the chair to join him in sitting on the floor and pulls him into another embrace. ]


It’s okay to cry, you know. You’re allowed to feel sad and grieve your lost brothers and sisters. What happened was terrible…
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-08 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[ The nature of this realm almost requires that dreamwalkers like Trahearne, like herself, like Eustace and like Diluc and like most everyone she’s met here face the skeletons in their respective closets. Dreams and nightmares bring fears and horrible memories out for them to reckon with, and the consequences for letting your negative emotions linger and fester within are tangible and more often than not, dangerous.

Thusly, it’s in all of their best interests to let each other feel these emotions, to give them their space, so that they can ultimately begin to let go. So that the wounds can begin to heal. Both for the safety of everyone here and, naturally and most importantly for Ori, the wellbeing of her treasured friends and companions.

And so she lets Trahearne cry. She lets him voice all that he needs to voice, all that he’s surely been keeping buried inside even as they had done things like go for hikes together or simply converse with one another, all that must have weighed heavily on his mind especially after a seemingly harmless petal drifted into his hands yet showed him a bittersweet but earnest wish all those months ago.

Once he leans into her hug, her arms tighten around him. ]


Of course it hurts. You care about your kin so deeply. I’m so sorry…

[ She lets him cry or stay silent or whatever else he needs in that moment, but at length, she slowly, she pulls away. ]

What happened with the dragon, after what we saw in the dream…?
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-12 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Her expression falls even further as she listens on; how painful it must have been for him to be shown all of this with no way to take action, helpless as he… Good gods, did he say subsume? ]

Trahearne…

[ She folds her arms across her chest, tipping her head to one side as she looks at him with no small degree of continued concern and sympathy. With each thing she learns about what he faced in his own realm, things just get worse. ]

What happened was awful, and heartbreaking. But none of it is your fault, Trahearne.

[ She needs him to understand that. She gets it - she really does, because she feels that way about many things that happened in her realm, too. That if only she were stronger, a better sister or friend, or enough, maybe some things could have been avoided. But she is slowly coming to understand the gravity of that way of thinking, of how unfair it is to one’s self, thanks to her friends from home and here alike. ]

I’m sure you did everything you could, despite everything, to protect your people. And I’m sure that there are sylvari that still walk in the waking world, free from Mordremoth’s influence with a new chance at life, thanks to you and your friends.
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-14 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
[ She startles a little when he turns to her all of a sudden, and gives a few slow blinks as she watches his thoughts filter through his mind. She's slow to realize he's asking her to do something, in turn, but once she does she also snaps back into awareness. ]

Vial... Oh, that vial! Of course.

[ Scrambling over to the aforementioned nightstand, she carefully takes the vial up in her hands and then makes her way back over to where he is, holding it out for him. ]

H—Here you go... I made sure to dust it to keep the glass clear while you were asleep.
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-15 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
So, that's how you…

[ died. It takes her a long moment to truly hear all that he’s said, to let it sift through her mind to try and understand such a seemingly significant event in a world she has never been to, and that she knows very little about. Luckily, it doesn’t feel too unfamiliar - because she can certainly imagine these sorts of things happening where she’s from, too.

At length, she returns his apologetic expression with one of sympathy, on her part. ]


I understand. Trahearne, you gave your life to save everyone from the dragon. Of course it’s a lot - but it’s okay, I promise.

[ She glances down at the vial as he holds it so carefully in his hands. ]

I’m sure that were there any other way, he would have done everything he could have to save you. To sacrifice one’s friend is… It’s the hardest thing someone could ever do.

[ And she knows this, because she’s done the same. ]
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-15 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[ The smile on Oriphi’s face takes on an undeniably bittersweet edge at Trahearne’s observation. Of course he was able to discern the meaning veiled beneath her words; for a moment, she’s silent, idly staring at the vial in Trahearne’s hands as she considers how much she truly wants to share about everything that’s happened.

Perhaps there will be another time for the full story, but for now, she elects for the short and sweet, if only in hopes of easing her friend’s worries. ]


Just before you fell into your coma… Diluc encouraged me to see if I could return to the waking world for a bit, to see to many loose ends that had been worrying me for a long time…

I was able to do that, and to see things through, but… I lost a dear friend, too. There was no other way.

[ She closes her eyes, and rests a hand on her chest as if that might dull the twisting feeling in her heart at the memories resurfacing. ]

I can only imagine that your friend must have felt similarly. That if there was anything else that could have been done, he would have tried it no matter what…
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-18 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Blessedly, eight months have passed for Oriphi since that painful and dreaded decision had been made. It’s not enough time to make peace with it - and a part of her doubts there will ever be enough time for that - but at the very least the pain is not as raw as before.

But still, sometimes she can’t help but feel selfish. Was Sian’s sacrifice to give up their own soul to purge that of Gran Karrefour’s from the gemstones and thusly the world really the only way? If they all had resolved to pledge the rest of their lives to guarding Gran Karrefour’s gemstones instead… Wouldn’t that have been better?

In the end, though, there’s no way for her to truly know. All she can do is to ensure that her friend’s sacrifice was not in vein. She hopes she can live up to that.

At his question, the ghost of a smile tugs at a corner of her mouth. She’s thought about this question, too, in all the months that have passed. ]


With how things turned out, it would be impossible, but… That doesn’t stop me from thinking about them, sometimes. Like if I saw something that reminded me of them and thought, “Hey, Sian, things are going well,” even if I know it won’t reach them.
Edited (do not perceive me) 2022-07-18 19:07 (UTC)
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-20 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Perhaps it’s something of a boon, that Oriphi is such a sentimental person. She would readily argue that Trahearne’s friend (?) must be thinking of him often, that an unavoidable sacrifice is the kind of thing that stays with a person, for better or for worse.

On her worst days, Ori thinks herself the most selfish person, to feel grateful that it wasn’t her. Perhaps it should have been her. But as she and her friends all stood there, arguing amongst each other about whether a sacrifice should be made in the first place, if there was any other way, and who should be made to give up everything as they raced against time, she remembers the feeling clearly to this day: she was scared. She didn’t want to die. She knew as much because she had been so very close to losing her life - and she didn’t want to die.

She frowns when she notices him tear up, taking in a deep breath. ]


…I think Sian would have felt similarly.

[ But perhaps she is being selfish again, fooling herself into believing such a sentiment to make herself feel less guilty. ]

And sometimes I hope… They find their way here, somehow. [ After fall, Trahearne was able to. ] I think they would like this place a lot. You two might even get along.
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[personal profile] hearthwarming 2022-07-25 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Truth to tell, there’s a reason Oriphi said that Trahearne and Sian might get along. Her dear friend had opened up considerably over the course of their travels together, but she wouldn’t be surprised if Sian would offer the same sort of frustrating cageyness that they displayed when Ori first met them. For all of Ori’s earnestness and sincerity, Sian tended to stand at the opposite end of that.

Maybe, the Sian that could find their way here would remember how much fuller their life became when they let themself care about other people.

But, ah, those are thoughts for another idle daydream, at another time. At the moment, the friend that is here in front of her takes precedence. She smiles at Traheare, giving him an understanding nod of her head. ]


I’m happy to help. I’m always here for you, and I’m grateful that you shared these feelings with me, too. I know it couldn’t have been easy.

[ All of that being said, she gets back up to her feet, straightening out her clothes. ]

Now… I’m sure there’s so much that you want to catch up on, now that you’re awake again! A few of us tried to make sure your home and the archives stayed in good condition, but what do you think about taking a walk through the woods with me again sometime soon?