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sixth entry ⊗ permanent residency
Sender: Eustace
To: Everyone
Subject: A Method to Stay in This World
As everyone should know, the version of ourselves in this world is wholly separate from our originals that remain awake in our home worlds. What we do here has no effect there, and vice versa. Most won't care whether they are here for a temporary stay, however there are those like me and Tifa who have formed relationships that would be impossible if not for this world.
And I am determined to make it last.
When the Halloween Carnival arrived last October, we had the opportunity to speak to the tapirs and inquire about the nature of our existence here. In short, we are tethered to our home world which allows us to return, currently at random. However, the fae, creatures, and every other being that is not a dreamer like ourselves do not have such tethers. They either traversed into this world or were directly taken through other means.
This leads to the conclusion that if we want to stay in this world, we need to somehow break the connection, either by completely severing it or changing the tether to connect to this world instead. Perhaps we need to completely change the nature of our current "dream self." As the risk of being sent back is high if the tether is cut, I aim to focus on other means.
However, there is of course no known knowledge or means to do this, and the tapirs do not know, either. Thus I am sending this inquiry to:
1) ask if there are any others who would be interested either to help or in the results;
2) if there is anyone who is familiar with dimensional travel or strong magic that could give some clue as to what to look for.
Currently I am looking through the Tree of Stories to find any text or story that could be of use. My current suspicion is dreamotion will be the main component, however manipulating it for such a use will be difficult.
If you are interested, you can respond here or contact me privately.
— Eustace
[ooc: AND THUS MARKS THE BEGINNINGS OF A VERY LONG QUEST but yeah Eustace is trying to find a way to stay permanently in this world and is looking for anyone who wants to help, wants to benefit, or has ideas that they can look into and be possibly incorporated in the actual method. An additional sign-up post has gone up for an official head count. Those who sign-up will be able to play a significant role in finding a clue and/or piece that will lead to the final result. More details there!]
To: Everyone
Subject: A Method to Stay in This World
As everyone should know, the version of ourselves in this world is wholly separate from our originals that remain awake in our home worlds. What we do here has no effect there, and vice versa. Most won't care whether they are here for a temporary stay, however there are those like me and Tifa who have formed relationships that would be impossible if not for this world.
And I am determined to make it last.
When the Halloween Carnival arrived last October, we had the opportunity to speak to the tapirs and inquire about the nature of our existence here. In short, we are tethered to our home world which allows us to return, currently at random. However, the fae, creatures, and every other being that is not a dreamer like ourselves do not have such tethers. They either traversed into this world or were directly taken through other means.
This leads to the conclusion that if we want to stay in this world, we need to somehow break the connection, either by completely severing it or changing the tether to connect to this world instead. Perhaps we need to completely change the nature of our current "dream self." As the risk of being sent back is high if the tether is cut, I aim to focus on other means.
However, there is of course no known knowledge or means to do this, and the tapirs do not know, either. Thus I am sending this inquiry to:
1) ask if there are any others who would be interested either to help or in the results;
2) if there is anyone who is familiar with dimensional travel or strong magic that could give some clue as to what to look for.
Currently I am looking through the Tree of Stories to find any text or story that could be of use. My current suspicion is dreamotion will be the main component, however manipulating it for such a use will be difficult.
If you are interested, you can respond here or contact me privately.
— Eustace
[ooc: AND THUS MARKS THE BEGINNINGS OF A VERY LONG QUEST but yeah Eustace is trying to find a way to stay permanently in this world and is looking for anyone who wants to help, wants to benefit, or has ideas that they can look into and be possibly incorporated in the actual method. An additional sign-up post has gone up for an official head count. Those who sign-up will be able to play a significant role in finding a clue and/or piece that will lead to the final result. More details there!]
Sender: Kainé
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I didn't realize you were so invested in this world.
[Then again, she has Nier...but is it better to be here than their world?]
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sender: phantom
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As for aging... It's a fair question. However, I would feel more accustomed to having a finite lifetime since that's what I already expect. Immortality is not that important to me unless I can have my loved ones with me.
[If anything, it would be hard for him to comprehend. He's seen begins that have been alive for hundreds and thousands of years, but he's also seen the consequences. He's not really that keen on it, really.]
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sender: beat
can at least do that
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Finding a decent starting point has been the most difficult part of this so far, but if I figure out something I'll let you know.
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Sender: Rob
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Which is why I can't say it's impossible to your question. Perhaps a powerful being like the Story Eater would be capable... But even if there were an easier way, I would excise caution. Influencing other worlds comes with greater risks and consequences.
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I don't know anything about dime-whatsits you said, but I can understand wanting to stay in a time and place that's happy. [He has a time he thinks back to that's just that, after all.] I can't really use that dreamotion stuff you mentioned, but if it means two people won't be separated, then it's worth it to try.
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We're still prepared for the more likely outcome of separation... But as you said, it's worth the attempt.
What do you have difficulty with dreamotion?
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sender: lyria
She may be in the other room, but she's going to attempt to reply here- ]
i want to help!! what do you want me to do?????
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He can't help but smile at seeing her message.]
I don't have anything to offer yet, but when I do I'll let you know.
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Sender: Hans Westergaard
I'm interested in the possibility of staying in this world. I'd be happy to offer my assistance whenever needed. I'm afraid I have little knowledge about dimensional travel or strong magic, but I hope to not be completely useless in other tasks.
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He remembers how Hans had expressed some interest in this before, so he's not too surprised to see him.]
How are your researching skills?
[Maybe a little tongue-in-cheek. Don't worry, Hans, he'll be sure to find anyone invested in this something to do.]
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Sender: Sorey
Can I still help somehow?
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Sender: General Nuadha
But if it is possible to use dreamotion to alter the nature of exoflection itself, then that may be a start.
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How would using dreamotion change it?
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Sender: Zelda
Even though she doesn't want to at all. ]
Are you so certain that staying here won't negatively effect your real self in your homeworld?
[ Zelda didn't wanna say something about this at the wedding, but she's been thinking it ever since Eustace and Tifa announced their engagement. Is it really wise to get married when your time together could end at any moment without warning? ]
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I've already left this world and returned once, not by my own will. I have also been to a different world, and apparently I was in yet another though I have no recollection of it. At this point, if it's possible for me to exist in so many worlds and yet my own suffers no change, I can only believe that it is very likely that there won't be a negative effect.
However, that's still not a guarantee and something I have to keep in mind. The only words we have to rely on are those from this world, such as the tapirs, and even then they might not know for sure.
That said... As selfish as it might sound, if I did have to choose one or the other, if staying here would remove myself from my original world entirely, then I would choose this one.
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Sender: Zenkichi
Personally, I have a daughter to return to and a man to put behind bars, but I have to ask, do you think this might have...repercussions for what happens if you never return home?
Even if we are technically separate beings (does that make us clones of the original? Dream clones? Maybe I should stop overthinking it before I think I've gone mad.) do you think severing that link potentially harm the other?
[He's asking partly out of his own curiosity, and partly to see if the other's put some thought into that as well.]
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Personally I'd rather not sever the link as that seems to pose the most risk.
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sender: Ferran
[One doesn't come up with this whole project on a whim...]
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Sender: Seto Kaiba
Even if this is all taking place in the recesses of our minds, attempting to do what you propose could cause irreparable damage to "both versions".. as you put it. If it was true that we exist separately, then how would we even be aware of our former existence and experiences and why would you need to sever this theoretical connection at all?
[There's always someone playing devil's advocate.. and nitpicking your words. Kaiba had it covered on both those categories.]
Something like this requires time, and extensive research.. which .. unfortunately, I've had plenty of both.
[What he didn't say, is that he was still working on the theories of interdimensional travel and how to maintain one's memories between shifting planes of existence with mixed success.]
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The only assumptions I make are from what has been "confirmed" by the tapirs of this world and what I've been able to observe in the year and a half I've been here. Whether they should be taken in full confidence is a different matter, but it's the starting point we have to work with. The tapirs themselves have told us from the very beginning of what we are in this world—fragments of our souls made of dreamotion energy that are still bound to our original selves using that same dreamotion energy. They have also informed us that neither side is affected by the other.
The need to sever the connection is also not necessary, but it is an option to consider if others don't work. Regardless, as long as we remain tethered to our world, there will be the chance that we are suddenly pulled back to it just like it is now. If we keep the tether, we need to ensure that we are no longer subject to unwanted pull backs.
I have also had personal experience in leaving this world and returning. I had no memory of what occurred here in Songerein when I was in my world, but I kept the memories that transpired there when I returned. I'm not the only one. I have also been in multiple worlds, though I only remember one of them and was told of my presence of the other. I know I have suffered critical injuries in one, but my original self was unharmed and also unaware of my existence there.
Of course that is only one account and things can always be different. But it's proof that it's not impossible to have safe separation.
I also agree this will take time. I doubt this will be done by the end of the season, and may take several months, perhaps longer. But that's all the more reason to start. We're effectively living on indeterminate borrowed time in this world, and I'd rather do something to change it than just wait and do nothing.
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Sender: Alisaie
I want to help in any way I can for anyone that wishes to remain here. However, what is the risks if you don't mind my asking?
[ Alisaie has too many responsibilities at home to stay here long, but she's determined to help others find their answers and happiness. Everyone has their own reasons for wanting to do the things they do. She still worries about what might happen to both versions of people, though. Something, she might want to look into. There's no accomplishment without risk, unfortunately. ]
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As to the risks, at this point it's all conjecture. It could fail and we're forced home during the attempt. The tether breaks and we can never return. Our original selves could be affected by whatever dreamotion energy we use. There's unfortunately a lot of unknowns, but that's why it's imperative that we look into as much information as possible.
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