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[belheir]

Sender: Anonymous
To: Everyone
Subject: Question

What do you think human nature is closer to? That of gods, angels, or demons?

[ It's been something that's been bothering him for some time. He knows the answer he had given, but it'd seemed like it was... incorrect, at the time. ]

Define "human" as whatever your worlds closest equivalent is, if you need to.

Comments

sender: sephiroth

[sefirot]

Humans are parasites.

[belheir]

Disagree, also not even remotely close to even beginning to properly answer the question I asked.

[sefirot]

Human nature is close to that of a parasite. Not a god.

[belheir]

And what if I told you I think gods are parasites?

Theres still two other options, you know. You don't have to treat them like tapeworms.

[sefirot]

Angels, demons, and gods were all things humans once believed in. I suppose by human logic, I am closest to that of a god.

[He says this as though he didn't pretty much declare himself and had a plan to become God.]

Humans are not angels, and demon is giving them far too much credit.

[belheir]

[Wow, a little self important, aren't we? ]

So then you'd be closest to that of a parasite. In my opinion, of course.

You're right. Humans are not like angels. They have far more mercy in them.

[sefirot]

Humans drain the planet of resources for their own comfort and greed. Is that not the acts of a parasite?

[belheir]

Parasites have a role to play in an ecosystem too, just as humans do. Not saying humans can't be greedy, or concerned for their own comfort, but I think the same can be said of any animal.

[sefirot]

Animals do not take beyond what they need. Humans kill the planet they live on with little regard for their actions or consequences.

[belheir]

That's absolutely not true. The common house cat kills for fun, even when it has food and shelter and no reason to hog resources. And that's just one example.

As for killing the planet, can't say that's the case where I'm from. There was a few environmental concerns a few years back, but they've worked pretty hard to mitigate or even reverse the ill effecfs. And there's constant lobbying going on by the common people to make the world a better place, and to even rewild areas that had been destroyed.

So yes, humans can destroy, and horde resources, but they can also give back an incredible amount to make the world a better place. You can't say all humans are wholly good or wholly evil.

[sefirot]

As I saw it, humans were slowly draining the lifeforce of the planet to power their comforts. Energy made from the essence and memories of those who once lived, used up and forgotten.

The only way to give back from what they've taken is to forfeit their own lives. Return to the planet before there is nothing left.

[belheir]

So you think they should simply die instead of trying to find other ways to power their comfort? That's pretty cold.

Even the humans where I'm from have several means of creating energy, from harnessing the wind, sun, and sea, to burning fuels that pollute the planet, to even nuclear energy.

Obviously all power sources are not made equal, and I can't really comment on using the dead, unless you count dinosaurs.

(Thats burning coal and other ancient stuff, it's particularly bad for the planet)

I just don't see why killing them all has to be the way when humans are particularly adaptable and intelligent.

[sefirot]

I find humans to be cruel, betrayers, full of greed. I do not see them in the light that you do.

[belheir]

Do you think the same of each and every human here too? Because the ones here seem especially kind, caring, and giving. Very much willing to go out of their way to help someone in need.

Maybe you just haven't met the right person yet.

[sefirot]

I have no opinion about the people here, most are not known to me aside from those who originated from my world.

[belheir]

Have you considered I don't know, trying to talk to other people? I'm sure there's plenty here who could make you see otherwise.